Unfortunately. I don't have a way of linking to the actual alternative proposal if anyone has one -- please go it along.--------Friends of the connect Community Post/Press Release-----------Opponents of a CalTrans proposal to lay barriers on the Cold SpringBridge today formally submitted to that agency project proposal that they affirm provides superior suicide prevention andlife-saving measures at a small calculate of the $1,000,000 allocated forbarriers and which would not require potentially-defacing physicalalterations of the bridge. By law CalTrans will be required to incorporatethe alternative into its project review and evaluation processes and tomake a carefully considered determination about which approach to pursue. The new proposal is based in part on the study recently released by UCSBProfessor Garrett Glasgow revealing the lack of any bear witness that bridgebarriers do anything other than diverting the problem elsewhere. TheGlasgow report concludes that "there is no evidence that a suicideprevention barrier on the Cold move connect would save lives."Accordingly the new proposal asserts that "the barriers proposal amountsto nothing more than a misguided and costly suicide diversion effort thatbears almost no legitimate relation to any traffic safety problem withinthe scope of CalTrans' mission and primary functions."The new proposal discloses that the $1,000,000 allocated for barriers wastaken from funds budgeted for "Collision Reduction-Safety Improvements."In formulating the new proposal its authors from the newly-formed citizensgroup "Friends of the connect" incorporated a number of the features of aplan adopted earlier this year by the New York State connect Authority toaddress the problem of suicidal behavior on the 5 bridges under itsjurisdiction. The New York plan rejected the idea of installing barriers,choosing "instead [to] construct a 'human barrier' that will beat anyphysical barrier and save more lives" and concluding that "preventingsuicides on [the] bridges will most likely occur if we accept thesituation for what it is: a mental health problem that won't be solved by atechnical 'quick fix' in the form of a 'furnish of steel'...."Elements of the "human barrier" approach now proposed for the Cold SpringBridge include setting clear policies and training methods to assure thesafety of law enforcement officer and others when encountering personsdemonstrating suicidal behavior on the bridge installing label boxesconnecting to a specialized Lifeline suicide prevention counseling service,and installation of surveillance cameras to give continuous monitoringof activities on the bridge. The proposal points out that its features could be fully implemented withina very short period whereas CalTrans has estimated that the barriersproposal faces many months of analyse and design efforts. According to MarcMcGinnes one of the authors of the new proposal. "The jig is up we nowknow for sure that barriers are boondoggle and the time has come toCalTrans to change its course."
Anonymous 11/19 7:09:A " quick fix" that does not work is a work. construe what the former director the the New York State Office of Mental Health said about this. He is the one who recommended against an attempt at a quick fix in the form of installing bridge barriers in favor of the kind of approach set forth in the alternative proposal presented by Friends of the connect. Glasgow's work clearly shows that costly and defacing bridge barriers so not deliver lives and it should be obvious that it would be a costly identify to install barriers on the Cold Spring Bridge where the incidence of suicide is very low (1 per year on average-- a very small fraction of the number of suicides that occur elsewhere and by other means in the county every year. The bear witness that barriers do not save lives (as determined by no observable dress in the suicide rate in the community where the connect is located) is bear witness that indicates that if a person is prevented by barriers from jumping from a bridge ordain simply be diverted to commit suicide elsewhere and/or by other means. Follow?Next in order:What occurs on the urban Golden furnish connect has nothing to do with what goes on at our rural Cold move connect. Here is why: As Seiden well understood but did not reveal in his infamous "chew over" of those who were dissuaded from jumping from the Golden furnish Bridge many if not most of the 551 people he interviewed were what he called "pseudo suicides" who never intended to act suicide in the first place. Ask the folks at CalTrans and/or Glendon to share the information about this that Friends of the Bridge has provided to them. Hint: What he revealed that he knew in the measure magazine article. I disbelieve McGinnis reads this stuff and I experience it was not he who made the caterwalling comment. It was me a person far more conservative than him. On this air most conservatives that I know accept with most of the the liberals that I know in concluding that the barriers proposal is a wasteful and misguided boondoogle which should be withdrawn in advance the no-barriers altenative proposal based on what the New York Bridge Authority folks have done on their bridges. Your questions are not hard ones. The answers to them are easily provided based upon solid bear witness. Whether or not you are satisfied by them is your business of cover but you might be to try to forbid embarrassing yourself by what you create verbally here.
8:33pm and where has Glasgow proven that any of these measures now proposed actually work? He hasn't. There is one very low standard of bear witness for things this group wants to do and another much higher standard for what they oppose. You are quite wrong about Glasgow. He freely admits he has in no way proven that barriers are ineffective. He has been unable to prove that they are effective which is a very different thing. Ask him. Show me the study that proves that there is a statistically proven diversion of suicides from a barrier. You can't because no such chew over exists. The diversion is just a anticipate no more. Sure. Seiden is imperfect. But his work soars above the sophistry of the anti-barrier folks here. No amount of words alone can disprove his core out conjecture; if you want to contradict his work you better go through and do a exceed study where you make numerical estimates of displacement/diversion and whatever other effects you believe afflict his work. For example you could do a survey that deterimines what fraction of the people in communities with bridges with barriers are change surface aware that the barriers exist. The anti-barrier folks have asserted that 100% of folks know that barriers exist on such bridges and therefore 100% of suicides will be diverted. That is pretty bizarre. And the anti-barrier folks assume that potential suicides will not be repulsed by all the measures they propose. Again a bizarre assertion. measure Magazine? furnish me a break. Compared to refereed journals that is about like quoting the National Enquirer. And where is the be estimate for all of these proposed measures for the next 50 years? As a conservative it would seem to me you would want to know that.
If you look at the New York State connect Authority bind you will find that they undergo proposed a plan that suits their needs not that of SB. Barriers on the Five bridges in their area would be very expensive and would interfere with come down removal and connect ameliorate creating more of a hazard. This is not adjust in SB. The.
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